Roche is in discussions with the US administration on drug pricing, but CEO Thomas Schinecker declined to say whether it might strike a deal similar to those recently cut by its peers Pfizer and
AstraZeneca
.
Last month,
Pfizer agreed
to provide some of its drugs to consumers at discounts of up to 85% via a new government website dubbed TrumpRx. And earlier this month, AstraZeneca said it would
offer similar concessions
, with the aim of ensuring Americans pay no more for its drugs than patients in other rich countries.
Schinecker made these comments during Roche’s
third-quarter earnings
call with the media. In the quarter, its drug sales increased by 9% to 35.6 billion Swiss francs ($44.7 billion), but the company believes the future is brighter still. It raised its full-year 2025 outlook and has pushed more drugs than ever before into late-stage trials, five of which it believes could have peak sales in excess of $3 billion.
“This year, we’ve advanced 10 potentially lifesaving medicines into the last and final phase of development. This is an absolute record for us. We’ve never come close to such a number before, and we’re not even at the end of the year,” Schinecker said.
Six of these new Phase 3 starts occurred in the past quarter, and several of these are in the cardiometabolic arena, where Roche has invested heavily in recent years. Two of the assets Roche obtained through its buyout of Carmot are now in late-stage trials: CT-388, for obesity and CT-868 in type 1 diabetes. Both are injected GLP-1/GIP agonists.
CT-388 has posted
highly promising
obesity data in Phase 1, though no
Phase 2
results have yet emerged. It is one of the most closely watched contenders in the obesity space. “We are taking it into a Phase 3 based on interim data,” Schinecker said. “This means that we have high confidence in our molecule.”
Zilebesiran, the hypertension drug on which it is partnered with Alnylam, will also enter late-stage studies this year, despite a
Phase 2 miss
. And, subject to the closure of Roche’s $2.4 billion
acquisition of 89bio
, it will get hold of that company’s Phase 3-stage MASH therapy pegozafermin.
By the end of 2030, the company expects to have no fewer than 19 new medicines on the market, 16 of which it says are potential blockbusters. Schinecker said that so far, Roche has experienced no delays at the FDA related to the US shutdown.
Roche expects 2025 sales to increase in the mid-single-digit range from the Q3 figure of CHF 45.9 billion ($57.7 billion), and earnings per share are expected to grow by high single to low double digits, both on a constant currency basis. Previously, Roche had said EPS would grow by high single digits.
Elsewhere in its pipeline, Roche
cut several pipeline assets
, including four Chugai-originated solid tumor candidates in Phase 1. Schinecker said this decision was taken simply because they were unpromising, rather than it being a deliberate strategic shift away from cancer.
Despite its blistering pace of dealmaking this year — as well as the 89bio acquisition, it signed
a license
to Zealand Pharma’s amylin drug for up to $5.3 billion — the Swiss pharma has no intention of throttling back.
“We look at everything, this is our job — to look at all the opportunities that are out there and to make a judgment,” Schinecker said. He said Roche looks at “thousands and thousands” of companies each year with a view to dealmaking, but only pulls the trigger in “less than 1%” of cases. “Going forward, you will see the same kind of behavior,” he added.
Roche is not immune to the lure of China, the source of many recent transactions, not least in the metabolic space. Schinecker said that the US and China are “the most innovative places” when it comes to the discovery and development of new drugs, adding that Roche had to go where new medicines are being developed.